Hi Koen,
In your previous post you are actually answering many of the questions
newbies would like to know (and which isn't clear from the current
Building-Angstrom page), and I guess this is actually the main point that
both John and Kai tries to aim at. Namely that we miss a central place
answering these questions easily (without having to read the complete
OE/bitbake manual - Which is by the way highly recommendable, but quite
though if you are a complete newbie :-).
I'm not the one to judge if this info should be on a Wiki or on the
BuildingAngstrem-page (or a complete 3rd place) and basically I don't care
:-), so I would like to keep off of this discussion, but until we get a
basic "step-by-step for dummies"-instruction specifying *every* single
(small) step for a newbie, people will keep drawing wrong conclusions and
buck us with all kind of basic/simple questions. Like i.e. the one from Kai
about which rootfs to use (@Kai: Sorry for using this as an example, but it
clearly shows that Koen have a lot of background info he takes for granted,
which isn't easy to get hold on unless you have worked with the system for
quite some time)...
Let's try to join forces an figure out how to make such a setup without
duplicating information between pages. I totally agree that this isn't a
good idea.
I hope my point is clear. I think we need a step-by-step instruction (maybe
just for a fixed/stable) kernel/rootfs-version to get people going and
getting a basic understanding of how to do. Then they can move to the newest
and greatest stuff afterwards when they have the basic understanding, and we
will have a place to point at when somebody asks... Something like the
BeagleBoard Hardware Validation page, which Gerald keeps pointing people to,
but just for the SW environment instead...
Just my 5 cent - Best regards
Søren
Op 20 nov 2009, om 12:07 heeft Søren Steen Christensen het volgende geschreven:
Let's try to join forces an figure out how to make such a setup without
duplicating information between pages. I totally agree that this isn't a
good idea.
<broken record mode>
That's what http://gitorious.org/angstrom-manual aims to be
</broken record mode>
regards,
Koen
Hi Koen,
<broken record mode>
That's what http://gitorious.org/angstrom-manual aims to be
</broken record mode>
Being a newbee hitting the link (http://gitorious.org/angstrom-manual) would
definitely put me into "Syntax-error"-mode. Not trying to criticism, but
pointing new users to a git-repository containing .tex-files for getting
basic info isn't really gonna help them much. Many of the users doesn't even
know git or La(Tex) when getting their first contact with Beagle and
OMAP3...
Does the info exists in as an easy accessible HTML or PDF-document to
printout and have next to ones keyboard while typing the very initial
commands after having just received ones (very first) BeagleBoard from
Digikey?
Regards
Søren
Op 20 nov 2009, om 12:37 heeft Søren Steen Christensen het volgende geschreven:
Hi Koen,
<broken record mode>
That's what http://gitorious.org/angstrom-manual aims to be
</broken record mode>
Being a newbee hitting the link (http://gitorious.org/angstrom-manual) would
definitely put me into "Syntax-error"-mode. Not trying to criticism, but
pointing new users to a git-repository containing .tex-files for getting
basic info isn't really gonna help them much. Many of the users doesn't even
know git or La(Tex) when getting their first contact with Beagle and
OMAP3...
I was pointing to there so people know where to contribute information to, not to say the manual is located there.
Does the info exists in as an easy accessible HTML or PDF-document to
printout and have next to ones keyboard while typing the very initial
commands after having just received ones (very first) BeagleBoard from
Digikey?
Not yet. The effort has just started, you'll have to coordinate with the people working on that 
regards,
Koen
A link to these documents would be handy from the other page... Also, maybe it's just me, but I can't figure out how to read the docs that are linked to on that page...
I did download the git repository and tried to create something out of it but failed yet again!
the siunitx package installation proved to difficult for me to handle and I don’t consider myself
a linux newbie nor a (La)Tex illiterate. I am not asking for help here just sharing in making the current status apparent.
Having many people asking simple question is the result of a huge success. At that point the story of “contributor” or “upstream” becomes less clear and people want to get help, they are not aware of the difference between Angstrom, OE and possibly even Beagle. For the same reason I believe that this mailing list is the right place start such discussions( Compared posting to OE / Angstrom).
Greetings