looks like the BeagleBone Black and this community is dead. Cannot even flash 8.3.

Trying to update the flash to Debian 8.3 and initially I get the back and forth Knight Rider pattern. Then, after a bit I get just 4 double blink leds every half second or so. Looks like a few others have seen this, but no conversation around the issue or possible solutions.

My raspberry pi’s work just fine, and when I do have a problem I can find answers fairly quickly.

It’s clear that the BBB is a dead product. There is no meaningful resources for issues, and when the system simply won’t ‘reset from a new image from their site’… that’s the last straw.

Mine are going in the trash and I will advise anyone everywhere to do the same.

Trying to update the flash to Debian 8.3 and initially I get the back and forth Knight Rider pattern. Then, after a bit I get just 4 double blink leds every half second or so. Looks like a few others have seen this, but no conversation around the issue or possible solutions.

That’s a flashing failure, usually caused by a weak or bad 5v DC power supply. (2a)…

If your powering via USB, well that’s why…

Or if you did something obvious wrong… 4gb image on a 2gb board.

My raspberry pi’s work just fine, and when I do have a problem I can find answers fairly quickly.

It’s clear that the BBB is a dead product. There is no meaningful resources for issues, and when the system simply won’t ‘reset from a new image from their site’… that’s the last straw.

Mine are going in the trash and I will advise anyone everywhere to do the same.

‘Last straw’, I’ve don’t remember you ever posting on here… If it’s only one and done for you, then there’s no reason for me to waste time either…

Regards,

Quoting Robert Nelson <robertcnelson@gmail.com>:

Seriously?

Don’t trash em. Send em to me. Email me your details and I’ll pay for shipping if you like.

PO Box 195
Lindisfarne
Tasmania
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Trying to update the flash to Debian 8.3 and initially I get the back and forth Knight Rider pattern. Then, after a bit I get just 4 double blink leds every half second or so. Looks like a few others have seen this, but no conversation around the issue or possible solutions.

My raspberry pi’s work just fine, and when I do have a problem I can find answers fairly quickly.

It’s clear that the BBB is a dead product. There is no meaningful resources for issues, and when the system simply won’t ‘reset from a new image from their site’… that’s the last straw.

Mine are going in the trash and I will advise anyone everywhere to do the same.

If that’s the mentality you’re going to take, then I say don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out . . .But it is in no way the fault or responsibility of anyone in this community that you have problems with customizing your software. You had a working image on it when it shipped to you, you take responsibility when you attempt to customize the software.

Reading this made me laugh.

I’m sorry to hear the frustration Karl, but actually I’m on the other arc: Pi to BeagleBone. The Pi has a lot going for it, but I get the feeling it’s trying to craft an Arduion-like experience. That’s great for messing around, but my experience was that as soon as you leave the well worn path, you realize that the edges are a bit guarded. That might be putting it a little strongly, but I couldn’t figure out how to get the correct kernel headers for the stock image to try and create LKMs.

–David

Ya… I didn’t ask for help… as you noticed :slight_smile:

The point is the community for the beagle board is so sparse self help is not an option. A sparse community around this type of product equals a dead product.

My experience has been quite different. Pretty much all the progress I’ve made with the BBB was enabled by various forum posts and code repositories. And every time I think I have an original question or observation, a little searching online finds the answer or a similar developer experience. It’s not easy getting things to work some of the time, but tenaciousness pays off for the most part.

Anyway, thanks to everyone who’s spent the time to post on forums and share their code! Hopefully, I will have something to contribute in the near future and can start paying you all back.

Chris Burak

to be a bit more nice about my grandious statement that the BBB is dead… here is a bit of history.

I have been working with products like this for about 18 years. Small form factor boards like the basic stamps and zworld jack rabbits to todays rasp pi’s and bbb’s and the banana pros and such and such

the raspberry has a great community… and the BBB doesnt. I have had numerous instances where i was using the BBB and found an issue and there are only crickets sounding on google.

I am not saying the BBB is a bad board as it is clearly a nice peice of engineering… i am saying the product BBB will pass into the past while the rasp pi will persist.

id advise you leave this BBB behind as it has no value looking toward the future. this ship has sunk.

and thats a bummer in many ways.

Nobody has forced you to use the BBB.
Nobody has forced you to even LIKE the BBB

As long as you feel that way remove yourself from the list and we will
not be bothered
by you anymore.

Source has been noted.

Gerald

For someone who has been “working with products like this for 18 years”, you would think he would be able to help himself by now. Yet he still thinks he is smarter than the rest of us, advising us to “leave this BBB”. Well, Karl, there are many more smarter people here who think BBB is way better than Raspberry Pi because of the open source hardware design, unlike the proprietary hardware design of the Raspberry Pi. You cannot even by the processor used on the Raspberry Pi. I think you have completely missed the value offered by the BeagleBoard organization. In addition, the BBB includes two PRU processors who have a cycle time of 5ns which is very important for realtime control functions. Cannot do that with the Raspberry Pi. Clearly you have no clue, so your advise has no value here.

Regards,
John

Yeah well those Rabbit semi boards actually are not bad, its the software stack you’re forced to use with them that is horrible. Wulf and I built an ethernet connected lead acid charge controller using one of these and the crappy compiler you’re forced to use introduced random bugs that where hard to track down. On top of that Rabbit semi community help was terrible. Snobs who think because you’re a developer that you should instantly know everything about embedded hardware. Thus my experiences with the “community” which was actually a single person / engineer at rabbit semi was a very bad experience.

Then ill tell you what. The rPI is a toy. It does a few small things well. But for a true embedded board, in most cases it is garbage. The actual physical engineering could even stand to use some work. Such as the surface mounted full sized sdcard . . . terrible, terrible design decision. If you can not figure out why, then you’re not much of an engineer.

Oh, and by the way, this hardware and community is 100% open source. If you’ve got a problem that us supposedly crapper community helpers can help you with. Go download the schematics, or source code and figure it out for yourself. Unles of course as I suspect you’re not a real engineer, but some kid who just wants to use his rPI as a settop gimmick for his tv . . .