Availability - how come nobody has any BeagleBone Black to sell?

You need to ask Arduino about what their plans are for their product.

Gerald

I believe this statement is likely to cause a lot of confusion:

“Arduino announced . . . the Tre in collaboration with Texas Instruments and the BeagleBoard Foundation.”

The “BeagleBoard hat” and the “TI hat” are going to elicit questions here that rightly belong somewhere else.

-david

We are working with them on the design. That is all. It is at the end of the day an Arduino branded, sold, and supported product I cannot speak for Arduino. At some point somebody did something like that and the bullets did not feel good going in or coming out even though I had nothing to do with it.

Ask Arduino.

Gerald

Micka,

TI has nothing to do with beagleboard.org but Gerald Coley is a TI Engineer ?

Which part I didn’t understand ?

no different than the fact Eben Upton is an employee of Broadcom, but yet he’s part of the Raspberry Pi foundation…

Dave

Micka,

Don’t take it personally, I’ve nothing against you, or TI … . You did a great Job.

and circuitco too… since we’ve been part of beagleboard.org from day one, investing our own money on prototypes, development, as well as taking all the risk in investing money to make this happen…

Dave

They're not the only one. There are several companies offering BBBs on
alibaba.com - for a price in range $60..$80, also in high volumes and
short term availability. The availability is real there, I know from a
company that has ordered - and received - larger amounts from such a
Chinese company.

So they seem to make good business with this shortage.

Just as an update to my previous mail: I got freedback from three
companies offering BBBs on alibaba.com. All of them told me they are
selling original boards, none of them is manufacturing clones. Since
all of them promise to ship within a few days I think we now know
where all the cheap boards are gone to. I think margins of $15..$35
are a profitable business for them as long as there is such a
shortage.

Adafruit has BBBs in stock right now. I just received the notification mail on it. It is first come, first serve, so go get one!

http://www.adafruit.com/products/1278

Andrew

For North America, the Embest BBone Black appears to be in stock for $45USD with qty 768:

http://www.newark.com/element14/bbone-black/dev-board-am3358-mpu/dp/41X3868?ost=bbone+black+embest

I believe it is made per the BeagleBoard.org logo program:

http://beagleboard.org/logo

cheers,
drew

Is anyone selling an original BeagleBone (white, not black) equivalent? I have an order in with CircuitCo, but it is weeks overdue and they are not returning emails or phone calls.

- Mike

No, that's not correct. They take orders from anyone who wants to use the boards commercially. Ordering from distributors for commercial purposes is frowned upon in the BB community, for obscure reasons.

They have my order; they just aren't delivering in the promised timeframe.

- Mike

Farnell has 666 whites in stock.

-- Bas

I have made those reasons very clear.

  1. We don’t have the capacity to support commercial use of these boards in products.

  2. I did not design the board for commercial use in all these different products

  3. The boards change as it is being improved and we are not going to continue to make old revisions of boards.
    .
    Circuitco is not allowed to sell BeagleBoard.org branded boards into commercial products. They can if they choose to, sell non branded boards for use under the direction of the purchaser of said boards who at that point is totally responsible for their operation as required by the purchaser…

Gerald

fyi - photo from @beagleboardorg on twitter from Newark element14 booth at EELive:
https://twitter.com/beagleboardorg/status/451792077177618432

embest-bbb.jpg

I got an Embest BBB from Seeed this week (http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/BeagleBone-Black-Embest-p-1736.html).

So far, I’m disappointed. It runs Angstrom from the eMMC, but it won’t run Ubuntu from a microSD card. I tried the latest Ubuntu 13.10 and 14.04 images from here: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu . I verified they both worked fine on a standard BBB (A6) and they both do not boot on the Embest BBB. I’m not sure if it’s a hardware issue, or a u-boot config issue, or something else.

Awesome, I'm disappointed too! Guess i better update all my wiki
pages, and say only official "CircuitCo" made boards are supported.

So, "SeeedStudio/Embest" it's now your move to fix this issue, my
email/contact info is easily available.

Regards,

https://twitter.com/beagleboardorg/status/451800453085270016

such a cutie :slight_smile:

element14boris.jpg

Interesting… my Newark element14 order for embest/element14 BBB should be shipping today so I’ll see what results I get with it & report back.

Probably want to send Robert a care package too!

Hi Robert,

I’m not expecting any help/support from you on this, but here is some additional info you may find interesting. :slight_smile:

a) I haven’t tried contacting Seeed about this. I did look around for a contact at Embest and I found a forum (http://www.embest-tech.cn/community/forum.php) and a way to file a support ticket (http://www.embest-tech.com/ticket/index.php). The forum is all Chinese. I spent some time looking at google-translated posts there hoping to find the magic fix, without luck. I suppose the next step will be to file a support ticket about it.

b) The Embest BBB I received has the AM3359. I noticed that the element 14 website says their “Embest BBB” has the AM3358. This may not be relevant to my Ubuntu boot issue, but it seemed interesting.

c) When I boot the Embest BBB and watch the console output, it ends like this:

Hit any key to stop autoboot: 0
gpio: pin 53 (gpio 53) value is 1
mmc0 is current device
micro SD card found
mmc0 is current device
gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 1
SD/MMC found on device 0
reading uEnv.txt
1204 bytes read in 3 ms (391.6 KiB/s)
Loaded environment from uEnv.txt
Importing environment from mmc …
Running uenvcmd …
reading zImage
3669712 bytes read in 420 ms (8.3 MiB/s)
reading initrd.img
3005004 bytes read in 345 ms (8.3 MiB/s)
reading /dtbs/am335x-boneblack.dtb
24884 bytes read in 9 ms (2.6 MiB/s)
Wrong Ramdisk Image Format
Ramdisk image is corrupt or invalid
gpio: pin 55 (gpio 55) value is 1
** File not found /boot/uImage **

But I can literally pop that same SD card out and put it in my BBB model A6 and it boots fine. I googled around for the error messages near the end, and got a few hits, but nothing that made sense to me as a workaround or explanation of why it fails on the Embest BBB.

d) I did some poking around in U-Boot. The version says this:

U-Boot 2013.04-rc1-14237-g90639fe-dirty (Apr 13 2013 - 13:57:11)
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc (Linaro GCC 4.7-2013.02-01) 4.7.3 20130205 (prerelease)
GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.22

Whereas the BBB A6 shows this for version:

U-Boot 2013.04-dirty (Jul 10 2013 - 14:02:53)
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc (Linaro GCC 4.7-2013.02-01) 4.7.3 20130205 (prerelease)
GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.22

So there is a difference on the first line, but otherwise the versions are the same. Also, both boards return the same thing for ‘mmcinfo’.