Beagleboard and US export restrictions

Right. But still it's strange for a private person to answer the
questions about which product will use it and for what particular use
it is intended. I wish I know, only my fantasy will tell. But yet I'm
expected to write something reasonable :slight_smile:

Victor Shkamerda

Oh, I agree. But, those are the rules. I wish this was the only rule in the world that made no sense!!

Gerald

i don't think they require you to know that information, only that
you don't *intend* to put it to military uses, etc.

rday

I'm wondering how many militaries/terrorists will answer "Yes, I'm
going to control a nuclear weapon with the BeagleBoard".... :wink:

You must answer a similar set of illogical questions if you want to
download Oracle products: it will be nice to know how many terrorists
they caught with that questionnaire....

Pietro

Pietro Pizzo wrote:

Just could not resist :slight_smile: I believe that the world will not die from
Armageddon, but people slowly become extinct from brain damage :wink: And
the export control is only a beginning, now I'm coming close to the
real fun of customs fees and VAT! Oh, humanity :frowning:

Victor Shkamerda

b) if said terrorist manages to blow up something with the BB,
they can put him in jail because he lied in the questionnaire

One would think that the “lied in a questionarie” argument will be the last entry in the list of things that will put him in jail, probably the “BLOW UP SOMETHING” entry being the first in the list

Actually the questionarie is not for filtering or exposing the bad guys, its just a non sense way of avoiding being responsable with the end use of the product, and a way to comply with the non sense laws

A checkbox in the order page with “I Agree to not use this product(s) in any nuclear weapon even ifI have a Teller-Ulam design based apartus ready to be deployed” probably will have the same purpose and will be less problematic to real customers (bad guys with explosive devices will click that checkbox as well, or lie in the questionarie either way)

One would think that the "lied in a questionarie" argument will be the last entry in the list of things that will put him in jail, probably the "BLOW UP SOMETHING" entry being the first in the list

I'm sure that he was sarcastic with a smile just missing.

A checkbox in the order page with "I Agree to not use this product(s) in any nuclear weapon even ifI have a Teller-Ulam design based apartus ready to be deployed" probably will have the same purpose and will be less problematic to real customers (bad guys with explosive devices will click that checkbox as well, or lie in the questionarie either way)

Question: How many BBs do you need to blow something up?
Answer: We aren't sure, but as you can easily see from the name of the
product it's a dual purpose device, i.e. Beagle Board = Bunker
Buster :)))

Victor Shkamerda

I tried to order a BeagleBoard XM from DigiKey and had to answer the
questionarie. After that Digi Key returned and apologized for not
beeing able to export the BB xm outside U.S. based on the encryption
review from the US Department of Commerce according to Stephanie
Anderson at DigiKey.

I wonder what encryption is included with the BB XM ? Is it possible
to remove that and ship the board without it?

I Live in Sweden :frowning:

First, to remove that, you would have no processor on the board. Then why would you want one.

Second, this should not be an issue. There must be something in your answers that triggered them to reject it. They are able to export outside the US.

Gerald

Dude! I know your pain..

Not only convincing Digikey that I don't want to to build a weapon of
mass destruction out of the beagle, I also had to jump through loops to
get that board to germany. I had to endure a whole day at the german
toll office. They've never seen such a thing, so it was suspicious. Even
the RS232 and Usb-RS232 dongle that I ordered with the board was suspicious.

My advice: Get your board from EBV Electronics. They sell a nice kit
including the Beagle (different color, same thing). You get all the
cables that you need anyway and a nice set of useful peripherals. It
costs little more, but it is well worth it.

Bonus: You'll order from inside the EU, so you don't have to endure the
US export paranoia..

Cheers,
    Nils

I tried to order a BeagleBoard XM from DigiKey and had to answer the
questionarie. After that Digi Key returned and apologized for not
beeing able to export the BB xm outside U.S. based on the encryption
review from the US Department of Commerce according to Stephanie
Anderson at DigiKey.
  
Dude! I know your pain..

Not only convincing Digikey that I don't want to to build a weapon of
mass destruction out of the beagle, I also had to jump through loops to
get that board to germany. I had to endure a whole day at the german
toll office. They've never seen such a thing, so it was suspicious. Even
the RS232 and Usb-RS232 dongle that I ordered with the board was suspicious.

I ordered BBs from digikey to germany twice, there was no issue
whatsoever except that I had to pay import tax and VAT but that
was expected. (order done via digikey.de, not digikey.com)

My advice: Get your board from EBV Electronics. They sell a nice kit
including the Beagle (different color, same thing). You get all the
cables that you need anyway and a nice set of useful peripherals. It
costs little more, but it is well worth it.

does EBV still make them?

You can get an EBV version and it is a great version, but it isn’t an -xM board. I am contacting D/K to hopefully to get this resolved.

Gerald

hi,
how did you obtain the kernel source code for this DEV3530..
How do we write modules for a board?
where do we compile it?
is DeV3530 same as omap3evm?

Thankyou.

Both SBC3530 and Dev3530 are variants of beagleboard or omap3evm.

More info
http://code.google.com/p/ema3530/

where you should be able to find those source code you need.

Best regards,
Jason Lam
Embedded Machine Technology Co., Ltd
Tel: +86-020-61230220
Fax: +86-020-61230221
Mobile: +86-13828455425
Email: lzg@ema-tech.com
Website: http://www.ema-tech.com

Hi jason,

Please tell me why then my board doesn’t boot with xloader and uboot configured for beagleboard or omap3evm?

it only boots with images given by the vendor, which is compiled for SBC3530.

and no source code has a config for SBC3530.

one more question, is SBC/DEV 3530 same as omap3 stalker board?

My touchscreen does not work with Angstrom built for omap3evm…

Why so many issues with the board?

Thank you.

why then my board doesn't boot with xloader and uboot configured for
beagleboard or omap3evm?

Sorry I can't tell what's wrong, but you can check the difference of the
source code.

one more question, is SBC/DEV 3530 same as omap3 stalker board?

As far as I know SBC/DEV 3530 are omap3 stalker board in different version.

My touchscreen does not work with Angstrom built for omap3evm

Did you check tslib run correctly? Try ts_calibrate in Angstrom shell.

You may ask support@ema-tech.com too.

Best regards,
Jason Lam

Embedded Machine Technology Co., Ltd
Tel: +86-020-61230220
Fax: +86-020-61230221
Mobile: +86-13828455425
Email: lzg@ema-tech.com
Website: http://www.ema-tech.com

So, Can i build the uImage for omap3stalker board? will the uImage of stalker board work with DEV3530?